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Fan boy haters
Author:  GQMD [ Fri May 01, 2009 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Fan boy haters
You guys that are hating on the new Star Trek film without even seeing it yet make me sick. You are the same type of fan boy [censored] bags that complained when the new BSG came out. It's always been funny to me as a Star Trek fan and a member of the ST gaming community how close minded this community is how backward and conservative. Star Trek is all about exploration and having an open mind they live in a world that is very liberal ( on earth ) no war hunger no money people just try to expand knowledge and enrich their lives. Have an open mind and wait to see the movie first then if it sucks you can rip it and I will listen but until then STFU.
Author:  Spike [ Fri May 01, 2009 5:47 am ]
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Here here, well said. And it's not just this new movie. I saw it on the Armada boards back when Enterprise was being developed too. "But that ship looks more advanced than the original Enterprise!" "Oh, they're re-writing canon!"

Pfft, whatever. It's not us designing the playground. It's just us PLAYING in it, and if we don't like how it's built, don't play in it.

As for me, I'm happy for a new Star Trek movie. I don't care if the sets look like an Apple store. I'm just happy they didn't make it look like TOS. And if that's what you want for a movie in the 21st century, go out and make it yourself.

This is not OUR private playground. They want to attract more people to the fold. I say good on them. We shouldn't complain about that. We should be HAPPY about that. Nowadays when I talk about Star Trek, I get laughed at. Few people get my references. In a few years, if the movie hits a chord with a LOT of people, then we won't be as laughed at. It'll be like watching Heroes and having a mess of people to talk to about it.

Less hating, more support. But, as the OP said, nobody's seen it, ergo nobody can pass judgment on it. Until you have actually seen it, I don't want to hear "It's the worst tripe ever!"
Author:  [DMZ]Dave [ Fri May 01, 2009 10:50 am ]
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In my own opinion:

Please don't take it to heart its only this one word "Generations" box office bomb and that is a statement of fan support for that movie, I went to that movie with an open mind and was well pissed off at what was done with that movie it was there worst ever, this new movie is being made by a guy who has stated that he is NOT a star trek fan nor really cared for trek in general I hope it works out but this time I do intend to be a bit more cautious.

The one big problem that I have is why would you make a movie about James T. Kirk and his early days and not have William Shatner onboard doing narration or as a technical advisor at the very least, I wish the movie well but don't be suprised if its not to your expectations.

As for the games wished they were better, wished you didn't risk a ban for expressing an opinion at certian sites. ie (bethslop). Wished you didn't have to mod them to make them better.

I really hope it is a good movie...-Enigma nod
Author:  GQMD [ Fri May 01, 2009 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
Enigma @ Fri May 01, 2009 2:50 am wrote:
In my own opinion:

Please don't take it to heart its only this one word "Generations" box office bomb and that is a statement of fan support for that movie, I went to that movie with an open mind and was well pissed off at what was done with that movie it was there worst ever, this new movie is being made by a guy who has stated that he is NOT a star trek fan nor really cared for trek in general I hope it works out but this time I do intend to be a bit more cautious.

The one big problem that I have is why would you make a movie about James T. Kirk and his early days and not have William Shatner onboard doing narration or as a technical advisor at the very least, I wish the movie well but don't be suprised if its not to your expectations.

As for the games wished they were better, wished you didn't risk a ban for expressing an opinion at certian sites. ie (bethslop). Wished you didn't have to mod them to make them better.

I really hope it is a good movie...-Enigma nod



Look the simple fact is the bar for Star Trek movies is so low at this point I don't think this movie will be that bad. Think about Nemesis and Insurrection those movies sucked monkey balls. As for Billy boy not interested in taking part so what he is a busy guy and lets face it Billy boy has always been a little upset he was not given more control with Star Trek movies. Look Bay was never a fan of Transformers and his movie rocked same with Ron D Moore he was not a fan of BSG TOS and he made a great show. I think we need to give this a chance if it sucks I will rip it all to hell and say you were all right but until then just be satisfied that you are getting a new movie.
Author:  Spike [ Fri May 01, 2009 3:07 pm ]
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"Big Bill" wanted to be in more of the picture than would be acceptable. The movie is about the NEW cast, not the old cast. That's why Leonard Nimoy is just making a small appearance: to pass the torch as it were.

GQMD is correct. If the movie stinks, I will be happy to say so. But I haven't seen it yet, and as far as I know, none of you have either. So nobody can pass judgment on it yet. One can say "the trailer is teh sux0r," but not the movie as a whole.

Still, I think it's great that they're expanding the appeal of the movie to general audiences. Should be exciting to see what the "non-fan-boys" think of the movie as well.
Author:  Victor1st [ Fri May 01, 2009 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
GQMD @ Fri May 01, 2009 2:52 am wrote:
You are the same type of fan boy [censored] bags that complained when the new BSG came out. It's always been funny to me as a Star Trek fan and a member of the ST gaming community how close minded this community is how backward and conservative. Star Trek is all about exploration and having an open mind they live in a world that is very liberal ( on earth ) no war hunger no money people just try to expand knowledge and enrich their lives. Have an open mind and wait to see the movie first then if it sucks you can rip it and I will listen but until then STFU.


Yes, and we all know how WELL Battlestar Galactica ended with it's cop out...

"ohhhh look, we're gonna land on earth in the Metholithic era and breed with these natives"

...and the Admiral choosing the ally with the cylons? wtf was that all about?

As for Star Trek being all about exploration and all that fun stuff, no, it isn't. Gene Roddenberry (remember him? the guy that MADE Star Trek?) said that Star Trek no matter what series or film should always look FORWARD into the FUTURE of Humanity, this film is rewining the clock, and when the film is a sucess expect CBS/Paramount to reboot the franchise ala BSG style cause thats what they said they were gonna do, but hey, if you wanna piss on Roddenberrys grave GQMD and wipe out 40 years of trek history thats fine with me, but the day the new series comes out off the back of the new film is the day i STOP being a Star Trek fan, cause any new series based off of the success of the film WILL be a BSG reboot of the franchise.

...when that happens it will be the final insult and slap in the face to the Roddenberry family and the millions of trek fans out there who have watched all incarnations of the series from it's initial inception in the 60's.

Thats what the Star Trek fanbase has become, a bunch of folks dancing around Roddenberry's grave...pissing on it.
Author:  Growler67 [ Fri May 01, 2009 4:40 pm ]
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Sorry I'm just NOT going to join the "Love Fest". I have my views and opinions and have expressed them and so I will not repeat my previous statements.

However, prequels just have a bad history and to intentionally take that course AND to fiddle with canon speaks clearly of the kind of people at the helm of the franchise. Attention to detail is what makes or breaks in the long run. This has been a series of bad calls and decisions being made, IMO, and to disenfranchise the core base of the fans will be their undoing.
Author:  GQMD [ Fri May 01, 2009 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
Victor1st @ Fri May 01, 2009 8:23 am wrote:
GQMD @ Fri May 01, 2009 2:52 am wrote:
You are the same type of fan boy [censored] bags that complained when the new BSG came out. It's always been funny to me as a Star Trek fan and a member of the ST gaming community how close minded this community is how backward and conservative. Star Trek is all about exploration and having an open mind they live in a world that is very liberal ( on earth ) no war hunger no money people just try to expand knowledge and enrich their lives. Have an open mind and wait to see the movie first then if it sucks you can rip it and I will listen but until then STFU.


Yes, and we all know how WELL Battlestar Galactica ended with it's cop out...

"ohhhh look, we're gonna land on earth in the Metholithic era and breed with these natives"

...and the Admiral choosing the ally with the cylons? wtf was that all about?

As for Star Trek being all about exploration and all that fun stuff, no, it isn't. Gene Roddenberry (remember him? the guy that MADE Star Trek?) said that Star Trek no matter what series or film should always look FORWARD into the FUTURE of Humanity, this film is rewining the clock, and when the film is a sucess expect CBS/Paramount to reboot the franchise ala BSG style cause thats what they said they were gonna do, but hey, if you wanna piss on Roddenberrys grave GQMD and wipe out 40 years of trek history thats fine with me, but the day the new series comes out off the back of the new film is the day i STOP being a Star Trek fan, cause any new series based off of the success of the film WILL be a BSG reboot of the franchise.

...when that happens it will be the final insult and slap in the face to the Roddenberry family and the millions of trek fans out there who have watched all incarnations of the series from it's initial inception in the 60's.

Thats what the Star Trek fanbase has become, a bunch of folks dancing around Roddenberry's grave...pissing on it.


Vic my good man I think you have me all wrong here lets see if I can help you to see my point. My point about Roddenberry's vision with ST was this. You are right it was about looking ahead to see what humanity could become. The world ST is set in no war hunger humans reaching out in to the galaxy working with others respecting other cultures and expanding knowledge of the human race. What I meant in my earlier comment about the community is that many times and I know you know what I am talking about here Vic(Watertiger,D.O.A Killogg,and many others). The community show just the opposite values of the show and it always seemed odd to me that so many close minded conservative would like a show like TOS it broke ground on the race relations with one of the first interracial kisses on TV it also tried to break down nationalism with having a Russian on the bridge along with others. Look if this movie abandons all of that I wont like it and I will join you and rip it a part as much as I did ST legacy. Vic until you know that they are going to strip all of that out I wouldn't get so upset. Vic I do think you would agree with me that many of the ST movies were poorly done by people that came from the ST family. Lets see what some one from the outside can do someone that is a good story teller with some vision like JJ. If he sucks I will say so but if it is good and people like the moive Vic will you open up your mind and heart and allow your self to enjoy it. Vic that is all am asking for leave room in you mind that if the movie dose not suck leave room so that you can still enjoy it.
Author:  Age [ Fri May 01, 2009 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
I know some young ppl in there early 20s who like BSG as well as all TNG era series but for the drama and acting alone.They don't look at the techie stuff like ships and that.

I didn't see BSG at it fullest but it very dramatic from the way it was presented.How this film turns out I have no idea and if Gene were alive today I doubt he would have control over Star Trek creative consultant he would.It all about business not about the cult of Star Trek.I would much like to see a 23rd TV series done after Star Trek 6.
Author:  Spike [ Fri May 01, 2009 9:29 pm ]
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Vic, hate to say it....

But isn't a movie set in the 23rd century, albeit in a chronological order of released series and movies the most recent, technically still... IN the future?

Now go with me here... but it's the 21st century that we live in here. The new Star Trek movie is set in the 23rd century. So, it's the future, right?

And finally, if you don't want to think of this as "canon," well, frankly, there's been plenty of mucking about in the Star Trek timeline what with time travel and whatnot. So, in here, Nero comes back in time to do whatever villainy he has in mind. The further events of this new continuity are now the result of his mucking about. Parallel universe now. The Star Trek we know and grew up on is still running fine; cardboard sets, aliens with zippers, cats that are obviously black house cats enlarged on screen to make them seem as though they're giant black cats. It's all still there. We just now, thanks to Nero, have a cooler looking universe going on, SEPARATE from the continuity we've all grown up on. Just think of them as two different universes.
Author:  Age [ Fri May 01, 2009 10:08 pm ]
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There will alwys be trills.
Author:  [DMZ]Dave [ Fri May 01, 2009 10:24 pm ]
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Age @ Fri May 01, 2009 10:08 pm wrote:
There will alwys be trills.
So true! Right as rain. nod thumbsup
Author:  Spike [ Sat May 02, 2009 12:02 am ]
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There better still be Trills, especially if they're as hot as Jadzia and Ezri.
Author:  flyingvirtual [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:01 am ]
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yup they better replace the humans by good looking Trills big grin (female ones that is)
Author:  TheAlpha [ Sat May 02, 2009 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
Victor1st @ Fri May 01, 2009 1:23 pm wrote:
GQMD @ Fri May 01, 2009 2:52 am wrote:
You are the same type of fan boy [censored] bags that complained when the new BSG came out. It's always been funny to me as a Star Trek fan and a member of the ST gaming community how close minded this community is how backward and conservative. Star Trek is all about exploration and having an open mind they live in a world that is very liberal ( on earth ) no war hunger no money people just try to expand knowledge and enrich their lives. Have an open mind and wait to see the movie first then if it sucks you can rip it and I will listen but until then STFU.


Yes, and we all know how WELL Battlestar Galactica ended with it's cop out...

"ohhhh look, we're gonna land on earth in the Metholithic era and breed with these natives"

...and the Admiral choosing the ally with the cylons? wtf was that all about?

As for Star Trek being all about exploration and all that fun stuff, no, it isn't. Gene Roddenberry (remember him? the guy that MADE Star Trek?) said that Star Trek no matter what series or film should always look FORWARD into the FUTURE of Humanity, this film is rewining the clock, and when the film is a sucess expect CBS/Paramount to reboot the franchise ala BSG style cause thats what they said they were gonna do, but hey, if you wanna piss on Roddenberrys grave GQMD and wipe out 40 years of trek history thats fine with me, but the day the new series comes out off the back of the new film is the day i STOP being a Star Trek fan, cause any new series based off of the success of the film WILL be a BSG reboot of the franchise.

...when that happens it will be the final insult and slap in the face to the Roddenberry family and the millions of trek fans out there who have watched all incarnations of the series from it's initial inception in the 60's.

Thats what the Star Trek fanbase has become, a bunch of folks dancing around Roddenberry's grave...pissing on it.




#$@$$%^$#@#^&ampamp&ampamp&ampamp&ampamp^&ampamp%%$$#@........aarrrggghhhh!!!

you beat me to the Punch line and took the D#$n words outta my mouth........sigh.....ty Victor


yea i cant belive the way BSG ended
i was an Original fan of BSG..and i did stay with the new for awhile but quickly saw "The Writing on the wall" and i have to admit that ST is heading that way.

we all might have to switch to "Star Gate" and stay there forever!!

at least SG is trueto its fans...lol




-Spike

Vics talking about what Gene layed down as far as timeline goes and future as well, gene never intended for the franchise to go to the Past to be reviewed and relived ( anyone remember the TOS cast being cut for a new TV series and TNG making the cut and moving forward? point made)


Moving forward doesnt entail go back to the original cast and remaking it, but going forward and reinvienting new chars, ships and themes.....THATS WHAT STAR TREK IS ALL ABOUT!

JJ could have made a new future, ship and Captain with even an Hirogen as second in command(hehehehe) but nooooo he took the easy way out and copped out on something else thats already been set in canon and legend and is about to perverse it!!
Author:  Spike [ Sat May 02, 2009 4:53 pm ]
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Star Trek: Phase Two was cut long before TNG was even conceived of. The pilot episode was re-written into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And several episodes that were written for Phase Two were re-hashed into second season TNG episodes due to the writers strike. Phase Two was NEVER shelved because of "going back to the start." It was going to be a new 5 year mission, with some new characters.

As for going forward, we've seen what that's done. Voyager did it, and was IMHO one of the worst series to ever come out of Star Trek. Nemesis did it, and didn't even make the money it spent back at the box office. Enterprise went back, and it was quite good. Paramount decided to put it in the same Death Slot that NBC put TOS in (Friday nights) in order to kill it off, and yes, the last episode of Enterprise was a slap in the face to the entire cast and crew who worked 4 hard years on an otherwise fantastic series.

As it stands, we have a small, yes, SMALL, group of people who would go out and see a "New, 25th century Star Trek movie." It would NEVER make its money back, in any way, shape, or form. Do you want Star Trek to go on? Then some alterations need to be made. Updates. New cast. New plotlines. Re-hash it for people who have NOT ever watched an episode of Star Trek. Let them in on our fun. But it sounds to me like some fans have the Star Wars mentality in regards to the updated episodes 4-6: you can't screw with it, because we don't care who made it, who owns the rights, who makes the movies and scripts and hires the actors, it's MIEN! MIEN MIEN MIEN MIEN! Well, no, it's not. It's Viacom's. And I for one would love to see some people come over to our side. If that means losing some people who get their feelings hurt because it wasn't made for them and ONLY them, then so be it.
Author:  [DMZ]Dave [ Sat May 02, 2009 5:06 pm ]
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Spike @ Sat May 02, 2009 4:53 pm wrote:
Star Trek: Phase Two was cut long before TNG was even conceived of. The pilot episode was re-written into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And several episodes that were written for Phase Two were re-hashed into second season TNG episodes due to the writers strike. Phase Two was NEVER shelved because of "going back to the start." It was going to be a new 5 year mission, with some new characters.

As for going forward, we've seen what that's done. Voyager did it, and was IMHO one of the worst series to ever come out of Star Trek. Nemesis did it, and didn't even make the money it spent back at the box office. Enterprise went back, and it was quite good. Paramount decided to put it in the same Death Slot that NBC put TOS in (Friday nights) in order to kill it off, and yes, the last episode of Enterprise was a slap in the face to the entire cast and crew who worked 4 hard years on an otherwise fantastic series.

As it stands, we have a small, yes, SMALL, group of people who would go out and see a "New, 25th century Star Trek movie." It would NEVER make its money back, in any way, shape, or form. Do you want Star Trek to go on? Then some alterations need to be made. Updates. New cast. New plotlines. Re-hash it for people who have NOT ever watched an episode of Star Trek. Let them in on our fun. But it sounds to me like some fans have the Star Wars mentality in regards to the updated episodes 4-6: you can't screw with it, because we don't care who made it, who owns the rights, who makes the movies and scripts and hires the actors, it's MIEN! MIEN MIEN MIEN MIEN! Well, no, it's not. It's Viacom's. And I for one would love to see some people come over to our side. If that means losing some people who get their feelings hurt because it wasn't made for them and ONLY them, then so be it.


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Do you want Star Trek to go on?
In a nut shell NO of course not the point is does Star Trek need a REBOOT NO but J.J. does right in the arse... idea! If it ain't broke don't fix it J.J.'s only problem is he has no originality of thought has to steal from others and turn and twist it in to something grotesque.

I have been a Star Trek Fan for 40 plus years what J.J. is making is more like a Galaxy Quest Rip off with some Star Trek and Star Wars knock-offs added.
Author:  TheAlpha [ Sat May 02, 2009 10:34 pm ]
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Spike with comments like that i can tell you dontknow jack S@#t about ST man.did you ever watch all 7 episodes of ST voyager? if you did your opinion would not have a leg to stand on, as a matter of fact the very last episode had over 20mill people watch it...not bad for a crappy series eh Spike?

Spikeyou are the one with issues here man....you Def are not a True Trek Fan and dont know Jack about Trek other than what you google right away from the web.

i admire your gift of fortelling the future on future ST movie sales...way to go spike...you got any lotto numbers for me man??

and come over to our side?? wtmf???
what Freaking side is that? the mental and deranged non loving ST series i hate Shatner side.......oh yeah baby you have a big following there?


and who the hell made you the authority on the Census of who many ST fans there are that support the Franchise and Movies? what do you telephone people and take surveys and find this Crap out?

if so stop callingmy house or i will kick ur arse!!!


Star Trek Voyager had some of the best Dialog and story telling that the Franchise had tooffer.....lmmfao

Get a life Spike and go back to the rock you crawled out from!
Author:  Spike [ Sun May 03, 2009 6:18 am ]
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[DF] TheAlpha @ Sat 02 May, 2009 16:34 wrote:
Spike with comments like that i can tell you dontknow jack S@#t about ST man.did you ever watch all 7 episodes of ST voyager? if you did your opinion would not have a leg to stand on, as a matter of fact the very last episode had over 20mill people watch it...not bad for a crappy series eh Spike?

Spikeyou are the one with issues here man....you Def are not a True Trek Fan and dont know Jack about Trek other than what you google right away from the web.

i admire your gift of fortelling the future on future ST movie sales...way to go spike...you got any lotto numbers for me man??

and come over to our side?? wtmf???
what Freaking side is that? the mental and deranged non loving ST series i hate Shatner side.......oh yeah baby you have a big following there?


and who the hell made you the authority on the Census of who many ST fans there are that support the Franchise and Movies? what do you telephone people and take surveys and find this Crap out?

if so stop callingmy house or i will kick ur arse!!!


Star Trek Voyager had some of the best Dialog and story telling that the Franchise had tooffer.....lmmfao

Get a life Spike and go back to the rock you crawled out from!


I rest my case.

Upset because I insulted Voyager. Well, guess what? I didn't like it. Thought it was the worst one of the series. I never once, though, said what you people on the boards are saying: it IS the worst. It WILL be the worst. They've SCREWED OVER THE FRANCHISE. I said I didn't like it. Not make sweeping generalizations about something I've never seen. I watched all 7 seasons of Voyager. From start to finish, as they aired. Was right there when Voyager entered back into the Alpha Quadrant. Still didn't like it.

Now, you say I'm always talking bad about Trek. What about when I said Enterprise was a good series with a bad shaft for the end? Nope, ignored since you don't like it. DS9, IN MY OPINION, is the best Trek. Now now Alpha, Hirogen, or whatever your name is, don't start calling me a non-Trek fan because I like something you don't. Guess what? It happens. I know people who love Voyager. My mother-in-law loves it. I know people who hate DS9. My wife doesn't like it. But because my wife doesn't like what I do, doesn't mean we're gonna get a divorce over it. It happens.

I've made clear in all my posts that everything is IMHO. I've never stated facts and always made sweeping generalizations as far as numbers go that any normal person would know that I didn't have any solid facts and wasn't trying to imply otherwise.

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Author:  GQMD [ Sun May 03, 2009 6:24 am ]
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You guys are off your freaking rocker. Have actually watched any of the recently released ST movies ST nemesis sucked insurrection sucked so bad in fact the only good ST movies. Lets get this straight we are not talking about TV here just the movies. The only good ST movies are Star Trek the motion picture Star trek Wrath of Kahn Star Trek First contact. All of the other movies sucked real bad or were just meh.Now if you don't think someone from out side the ST fam should get a crack at it I think you are wrong.
Author:  Age [ Sun May 03, 2009 6:52 am ]
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I liked all of the movies with the original cast in it the only TNG one I liked was First Contact.

I meant the furry trills but those trills are nice to.
Author:  TheAlpha [ Sun May 03, 2009 11:43 am ]
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Age @ Sun May 03, 2009 3:52 am wrote:
I liked all of the movies with the original cast in it the only TNG one I liked was First Contact.

I meant the furry trills but those trills are nice to.


See Age is a True Trek Fan.....no matter how bad you think the movie sucks, you still can appreciate it for what it Stands for.....and thats my point

Sure the ratings and ticket sakes sucked on some ST movies....but they are Trek whethere you like it or not....and i myself can always find something good inANY ST movie and series no matter what it is.

thats what being a trues trek fan is all about.

Spike i bet you never watched ALL eps of ST: DS9 or Voyager? well guess what .....I did!!

and those series are awesome...sure they had dry spells like TNG at times but they are Trek and they have good story Lines as well as Dialog

all you do is come here and Rag on ST shows and Movies without saying anything Positive about them and that to me shows your Ignorance and small thinking as well as NOT being a True trek Fan

Get it together Spike and join the Force ....Instead of the Dark side!
Author:  Spike [ Sun May 03, 2009 12:43 pm ]
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I'll say it again Alpha...

RTFM

Try reading all my messages, not skimming through and seeing that I said I thought Voyager was the worst of the lot and getting all pissy about that.

Till then, we have nothing more to discuss.

Now, back to some sane conversation, instead of people attacking me for no reason....

I agree GQMD, many of the movies were sub-par, IMHO. Though honestly, I enjoyed all of the even movies, Nemesis included. TSFS was okay, but TFF was terrible, and Insurrection was just laughable, but still nice. And yes, we DO n eed somebody other than a fan boy to make movies.

It's not just about whether we like them. If any more are to be made, they HAVE to make money.
Author:  GQMD [ Sun May 03, 2009 1:54 pm ]
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Alpha being a mindless drone and lapping up every thing that is ST dose not make you a "Real ST Fan" what makes you is blind to facts.
Author:  Gray [ Sun May 03, 2009 2:17 pm ]
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Not meaning to point out a very obvious flaw - but if Alpha "liked everything Trek" then he would like the new film - which is quite obviously the case.

As Alpha has said "It's Trek whether you like it or not" - maybe he should heed his own words?

I personally dont like the idea of a remake/rehash/whatever you want to call it, and it seems a bit too star warsy (from the trailers) but I'll have to actually see it to slate it.

When it comes down to it, Star Trek has needed to go somewhere different, or at least somewhere in a different way, for a while now. It's become stagnant (though that may have slightly more to do with sub-par writing as of late).

The new film IS trek now. Whether we like it or not. Looks like there is going to be the same divide seen in BSG between fans of the old and fans of the new...
Author:  flyingvirtual [ Sun May 03, 2009 2:27 pm ]
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I have personally not yet decided whether or not I'll see the movie

the bad feeling I kind of have though is that this film will look quite flashy but will lack a certain depth in story line

which is not a problem just situated in Trek, it's something you are quite likely to find in most action based films out of Hollywood (e.g.: look at trailers and previews of the new X-Men film)
Author:  [DMZ]Dave [ Sun May 03, 2009 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
Well all I can say at this point is wait an see, its all pure speculation until the music plays so I think for now for me anyway I will hold anymore stories on XI until the critics do there post analysis of the film and reviews are in. Until then arrow
Author:  TheAlpha [ Mon May 04, 2009 2:28 am ]
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i never said i hated the new movie and yet i have stated that the CG will be awesime and i miight like that as well...its the whole going back and revamping something that doesnt need to be done is my whole gripe...and then calling it canon.

so Yes i have heeded my words...but its Guys Like Spikey and GSCQ that come off as Narsacists dweebs that think they are true trek fans that bust my gut and make me laugh

and say thing about Trek Movies and series when the prolly havent watched them all

and the Franchise when they really dont know WTF they are talking about.

i can say with honesty i have watched every single ep of all 5 series...can you guys say tht with honesty?
and there were eps i didnt like ...but to say one was worst than the rest is just plain ignorant
They all had there ups and downs...and finally Spikey says IMHO...lmao...shudda said that earlier and i wouldnt have ribbed ya for what ya said but dont try and makes things fact Spikey....


will i like the new Movie and watch it...sure i will....well i consider it something that bears up to what trek is all about and comsider it canon? that yet remains to be seen but from what littl e i have seen i doubt i will.

Trek Needs to move forward in the timeline and not backwards

and ill be the first to say srry spikey and qgsc if i offended you chaps.....Im just an Ol Fan Boy of Trek that hates to see changes that i feel are going in the wrong direction...i hope im right...LOL

Besides, just Like hunting my Prey and torturing it while i stalk it and its mindless brain still works and its puny heart still beats.....that is what we Hirogens do, we Kill!!!!......Muuuwwwwhahahahahahahaha


no run you little maggots before i make you my next trophys!!
Author:  Age [ Mon May 04, 2009 2:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
To Alpha

I did like certian episodes of Voyager but not the whole searies.It was not like well TOS it didn't have the rule breaking but niether did TNG but DS9 did with Sisko breaking some of Starfleet rules just like capt Kirk did.Janeway was Starfleet all the as they could of been home sooner if they let array get destoryed or figured out a better to travel through the Alpha quadrant under cloak yes clear breach of the Federation organian agreement but Kirk would of done it so would Sisko.Janeway was not a rule breaker and Picard only broke a few of them unlike Kirk and Sisko.

I would prefer a searies after ST6.

Lets stop with name calling or this will get locked.
Author:  TheAlpha [ Mon May 04, 2009 3:15 am ]
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Yea Janeway was a Rulekeeper for sure, but she did break Protocol a couple of times when it came to dealing with the Borg and i hate to say it the hirogens...LOL

Sisko...he was a Sherriff out in the wild frontier...he was a gun sling pistol whipping gin fighter yeehaw

i liked when he killed a Romulan Senator just to get the romulans in to the Dominion war...classic!!
but yeah Janeway was a classic federation law keeper....lol
Author:  GQMD [ Mon May 04, 2009 6:47 am ]
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Alpha you are a fool I can honestly say that, and yeah I have seen every single episode of Trek.
Author:  TheAlpha [ Mon May 04, 2009 7:50 am ]
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QGSC STFU man didntyou hear what Age said? or i guess you dont care what Age said thats why you said that?

This is Vics house and Yes i was getting out of line and so retracted what i said in slander to you and spikey, but i guess you dont care whos house this is do you??

STFU and respect Vics house man before you get Banned

if this were any other forum i'd burn you a new hole but it aint it's Vics so STFU
Author:  Spike [ Mon May 04, 2009 1:01 pm ]
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[DF] TheAlpha @ Sun 03 May, 2009 20:28 wrote:
i never said i hated the new movie and yet i have stated that the CG will be awesime and i miight like that as well...its the whole going back and revamping something that doesnt need to be done is my whole gripe...and then calling it canon.

so Yes i have heeded my words...but its Guys Like Spikey and GSCQ that come off as Narsacists dweebs that think they are true trek fans that bust my gut and make me laugh

and say thing about Trek Movies and series when the prolly havent watched them all

and the Franchise when they really dont know WTF they are talking about.

i can say with honesty i have watched every single ep of all 5 series...can you guys say tht with honesty?
and there were eps i didnt like ...but to say one was worst than the rest is just plain ignorant
They all had there ups and downs...and finally Spikey says IMHO...lmao...shudda said that earlier and i wouldnt have ribbed ya for what ya said but dont try and makes things fact Spikey....


will i like the new Movie and watch it...sure i will....well i consider it something that bears up to what trek is all about and comsider it canon? that yet remains to be seen but from what littl e i have seen i doubt i will.

Trek Needs to move forward in the timeline and not backwards

and ill be the first to say srry spikey and qgsc if i offended you chaps.....Im just an Ol Fan Boy of Trek that hates to see changes that i feel are going in the wrong direction...i hope im right...LOL

Besides, just Like hunting my Prey and torturing it while i stalk it and its mindless brain still works and its puny heart still beats.....that is what we Hirogens do, we Kill!!!!......Muuuwwwwhahahahahahahaha


no run you little maggots before i make you my next trophys!!


Y'know, any person with half a brain would know the fact that I was NOT claiming facts but stating an opinion WITHOUT my putting an "IMHO" in front of it. Only had to edit it for people like YOU with NO brain.

Now, for the FACTS about this board.... facts that will get me banned and my thread started on it locked in no time. Please, feel free to read it.
Author:  GQMD [ Mon May 04, 2009 1:43 pm ]
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Vic can ban me if he wants it does not change the fact that you are a moron.
Author:  Age [ Tue May 05, 2009 12:08 am ]
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I said it once no name calling or this will get locked.The next one it will.
Author:  Growler67 [ Tue May 05, 2009 1:54 am ]
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Children and tantrums.............
Author:  Steve Angelis [ Tue May 05, 2009 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fan boy haters
I would like to state for the record that I have seen most of the new movie(I love my friend Gary) and I hate it for how it botches up the characters in regards to how some of the characters react with others, but on the side note, the explosions do kick f*cking [censored] smile

As I said many times before I will say it again. This movie is nothing more than a new fad as I am personally seeing with the movie Twilight (Do NOT get me started on it... I live right where they are filming the movies and I am disgusted beyond words with those fans...) and as with all fads this will do exactly what it is susposed to do. It will draw in a new audience and for a time it will be sent through the roof. This movie will probably bring in $$$ close to that of the last Transformer movie, or mearly, close to it, and depending on how ST12 and the new series turn out, this new fad may even last for a decade or so.

As for BSG, [censored] you haters the series had something that 99% of shows out there do not have, and no it is not flashing animation and explosions. It is a thing called character developement. The characters did not stay static and one track minded through the whole series like some TV series, they changed and adapted as it all went along.

On a side note, Caprica is a kick [censored] movie, as the girlfriends dad said, especially the first five minutes. Lol

Oh and on a side note, I will be seeing the new movie with the girlfriend and we both will be seeing it for one reason and one reason alone.

When Kirk gets near Spork, er, Spock, we will be screaming out 'RAPE'.
Author:  TheAlpha [ Tue May 05, 2009 6:28 am ]
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LMMFAO

Now that was classic Steve and Epic at that...Bravo Lad Bravo!!
Author:  Age [ Tue May 05, 2009 6:35 am ]
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Thread now Locked as I warned..

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